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	Commenti a: apt-get purge chromium	</title>
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	<description>Have you tried rebooting it?</description>
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		Di: Giuseppe Iuculano		</title>
		<link>https://www.iuculano.it/linux/apt-get-purge-chromium/#comment-58730</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Giuseppe Iuculano]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2014 19:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In risposta a &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.iuculano.it/linux/apt-get-purge-chromium/#comment-58729&quot;&gt;Nik&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s something different than &quot;proposing the use of an untrusted binary&quot; 
Anyway, is know from who? Have you analyzed the Chrome binary? Or are you  talking about something you know using second-hand information?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In risposta a <a href="https://www.iuculano.it/linux/apt-get-purge-chromium/#comment-58729">Nik</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s something different than &#8220;proposing the use of an untrusted binary&#8221;<br />
Anyway, is know from who? Have you analyzed the Chrome binary? Or are you  talking about something you know using second-hand information?</p>
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		Di: Nik		</title>
		<link>https://www.iuculano.it/linux/apt-get-purge-chromium/#comment-58729</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2014 19:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In risposta a &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.iuculano.it/linux/apt-get-purge-chromium/#comment-58728&quot;&gt;Giuseppe Iuculano&lt;/a&gt;.

You wrote you&#039;d use the Google Chrome binary. This is known to contain malware and proposing its use harms users and puts software freedom at stake.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In risposta a <a href="https://www.iuculano.it/linux/apt-get-purge-chromium/#comment-58728">Giuseppe Iuculano</a>.</p>
<p>You wrote you&#8217;d use the Google Chrome binary. This is known to contain malware and proposing its use harms users and puts software freedom at stake.</p>
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		Di: Giuseppe Iuculano		</title>
		<link>https://www.iuculano.it/linux/apt-get-purge-chromium/#comment-58728</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Giuseppe Iuculano]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2014 17:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In risposta a &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.iuculano.it/linux/apt-get-purge-chromium/#comment-58727&quot;&gt;Nik&lt;/a&gt;.

Where you read I proposed the use of an untrusted binary?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In risposta a <a href="https://www.iuculano.it/linux/apt-get-purge-chromium/#comment-58727">Nik</a>.</p>
<p>Where you read I proposed the use of an untrusted binary?</p>
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		Di: Nik		</title>
		<link>https://www.iuculano.it/linux/apt-get-purge-chromium/#comment-58727</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2014 17:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No matter what the background is, you should be ashamed for proposing the use of an untrusted binary third-party build of proven spyware.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No matter what the background is, you should be ashamed for proposing the use of an untrusted binary third-party build of proven spyware.</p>
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		Di: Giuseppe Iuculano		</title>
		<link>https://www.iuculano.it/linux/apt-get-purge-chromium/#comment-58725</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Giuseppe Iuculano]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2014 10:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In risposta a &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.iuculano.it/linux/apt-get-purge-chromium/#comment-58724&quot;&gt;Michael Gilbert&lt;/a&gt;.

I confirm that if you think this is the correct way to maintain a package, you cannot work in a team. The experimental branch was outdated for at least five months. I sent you ton of emails but nothing.
The fact that you spent a lot of your personal time in improving the package doesn&#039;t mean you are authorized to deny people in co-maintain and hinder people with huge and incomprehensible commits or hide changes in debian/changelog .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In risposta a <a href="https://www.iuculano.it/linux/apt-get-purge-chromium/#comment-58724">Michael Gilbert</a>.</p>
<p>I confirm that if you think this is the correct way to maintain a package, you cannot work in a team. The experimental branch was outdated for at least five months. I sent you ton of emails but nothing.<br />
The fact that you spent a lot of your personal time in improving the package doesn&#8217;t mean you are authorized to deny people in co-maintain and hinder people with huge and incomprehensible commits or hide changes in debian/changelog .</p>
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		Di: Michael Gilbert		</title>
		<link>https://www.iuculano.it/linux/apt-get-purge-chromium/#comment-58724</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Gilbert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2014 08:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Unstated is the fact that chromium is a &quot;nightmare&quot; package (hundreds of embedded code copies,  hours for each build iteration, enormous upstream changes every 6 weeks, a massive number of security updates more often than that, etc.), and the cruftiness of the packaging is itself what had become the primary maintenance roadblock.

That nightmare setup is why maintaining the package is often times difficult and time-consuming, and I can fully empathize with Guiseppe&#039;s frustration, but not the target of that frustration.

The package simply needed to be rewritten to get the it out of the way; to reduce the amount of time required for keeping up new versions; and to make it the high pace of security updates supportable for jessie.

I spent a rather huge amount of my personal time improving the package, which is why rather large commits were the outcome.  Could I have done more micro-commits?  Sure, but that would have meant more of my limited free time.  Not only that, I basically jettisoned the original packaging in order to bring in only what was needed, so at least one huge commit was basically unavoidable.

So, yes, there are a few parts of humpty dumpty to piece back together still, but they are all mindless touch ups, not the seemingly catastrophic exaggerations here.  And after today&#039;s upload, most of those pieces are back in place, so there was no need for the premature vitriol and abdication.

Anyway, I never bear animosity toward anyone, and I welcome Giuseppe back to the team if he ever so chooses.  And, if not, the package is now easier to maintain, which means less of my time and a lower barrier to entry for new contributors anyway.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unstated is the fact that chromium is a &#8220;nightmare&#8221; package (hundreds of embedded code copies,  hours for each build iteration, enormous upstream changes every 6 weeks, a massive number of security updates more often than that, etc.), and the cruftiness of the packaging is itself what had become the primary maintenance roadblock.</p>
<p>That nightmare setup is why maintaining the package is often times difficult and time-consuming, and I can fully empathize with Guiseppe&#8217;s frustration, but not the target of that frustration.</p>
<p>The package simply needed to be rewritten to get the it out of the way; to reduce the amount of time required for keeping up new versions; and to make it the high pace of security updates supportable for jessie.</p>
<p>I spent a rather huge amount of my personal time improving the package, which is why rather large commits were the outcome.  Could I have done more micro-commits?  Sure, but that would have meant more of my limited free time.  Not only that, I basically jettisoned the original packaging in order to bring in only what was needed, so at least one huge commit was basically unavoidable.</p>
<p>So, yes, there are a few parts of humpty dumpty to piece back together still, but they are all mindless touch ups, not the seemingly catastrophic exaggerations here.  And after today&#8217;s upload, most of those pieces are back in place, so there was no need for the premature vitriol and abdication.</p>
<p>Anyway, I never bear animosity toward anyone, and I welcome Giuseppe back to the team if he ever so chooses.  And, if not, the package is now easier to maintain, which means less of my time and a lower barrier to entry for new contributors anyway.</p>
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		Di: Valentine North		</title>
		<link>https://www.iuculano.it/linux/apt-get-purge-chromium/#comment-58723</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Valentine North]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2014 08:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In risposta a &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.iuculano.it/linux/apt-get-purge-chromium/#comment-58722&quot;&gt;TildeHash&lt;/a&gt;.

There are plenty other open source alternatives, Firefox being my favorite one.
Oh, yes, I do have Chrome installed :p, but only for flash games.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In risposta a <a href="https://www.iuculano.it/linux/apt-get-purge-chromium/#comment-58722">TildeHash</a>.</p>
<p>There are plenty other open source alternatives, Firefox being my favorite one.<br />
Oh, yes, I do have Chrome installed :p, but only for flash games.</p>
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		Di: TildeHash		</title>
		<link>https://www.iuculano.it/linux/apt-get-purge-chromium/#comment-58722</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TildeHash]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2014 01:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So you&#039;d rather use proprietary software, yeah... that makes perfect sense :-&#124;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you&#8217;d rather use proprietary software, yeah&#8230; that makes perfect sense 😐</p>
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		Di: Mathis DT		</title>
		<link>https://www.iuculano.it/linux/apt-get-purge-chromium/#comment-58721</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mathis DT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2014 20:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was surprised that after an &quot;aptitude dist-upgrade&quot; in Debian Testing some things in Chromium stopped working, but now I know why. I also did the switch to Google&#039;s package.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was surprised that after an &#8220;aptitude dist-upgrade&#8221; in Debian Testing some things in Chromium stopped working, but now I know why. I also did the switch to Google&#8217;s package.</p>
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		Di: tosky		</title>
		<link>https://www.iuculano.it/linux/apt-get-purge-chromium/#comment-58720</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tosky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2014 19:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Pretty please, Giuseppe, use the proper escalation procedure (someone told me about NM team or something like that), it&#039;s not the first time the packages from this DD receive this kind of &quot;work&quot;. Don&#039;t give up!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty please, Giuseppe, use the proper escalation procedure (someone told me about NM team or something like that), it&#8217;s not the first time the packages from this DD receive this kind of &#8220;work&#8221;. Don&#8217;t give up!</p>
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